093 Ennui Road Trip: Wollongong, Kalab Templeman, and Grill’d

Matthew Winter and Ben Davis come together to discuss their trip to Wollongong to collab with the legend himself, Kalab Templeman. They talk about coffee, milk and sugar for a while, before discussing their trip to Wollongong, if they could live in that city, where they think they’ll end up living, the difficulty of driving in cities, meeting and creating their documentary with Kalab Templeman, why they both have to wear glasses, Ben having Grill’d for the first time, Mexicans, and politics.